PC Question

[drewjack3]

How much would it cost to build a computer that could run game like UT3 and crysis.

[Blnukem]

20 Billion dollars.

[drewjack3]

whew i dont know if i got that kinda cash

[Corbs]

Depends, are you looking for high-end specs or low-end specs?

I'd say it would probably range from 1000$ to 2000$, excluding peripherals and softwares.

[drewjack3]

were can i figure out how to build my own high end pc

[Corbs]

Google is your friend.

There are many websites which offer tips & tricks on building your own PC.

Building Your Own PC, Part 1: Know-How for Do-It-Yourselfers : Building A PC System - Tom's Hardware
Building Your Own PC, Part 2: Assembly Step by Step : Guidelines For Building Your Own PC - Tom's Hardware

Honestly, it's really not that hard. It's the same as buying a table and reading the manual to assemble it.

[drewjack3]

cool man ty

[drewjack3]

Originally Posted by Corbs

Depends, are you looking for high-end specs or low-end specs?

I'd say it would probably range from 1000$ to 2000$, excluding peripherals and softwares.

is that price for low end specs or high end specs

[Corbs]

Originally Posted by drewjack3

is that price for low end specs or high end specs

High-end, although again, it depends on the sales. In my opinion, a low-end PC cost no more than 500$.

[Pyjack]

Just a few tips to help you optimize your computer.

1. Don't waste your money on a quad core processor. dual core is fine and anything thats a 9400 nomenclature is going to be better for expansion.

2. Get a separate HDD for your your OS. buy like a 32gig 7200 RPM 3.0 sata HDD for your OS only. will make your computer blazing fast just leave make sure not to put anything on there. you also want to get 7200 RPM 3.0 sata's for your main drives aswell just is faster.

3. SLI isn't worth it just like quad core, its not utilized yet and when it will be utilized you will need to upgrade anyway.

Show us a list and we can let you know if you should change some shit out, and if you didnt know newegg.com is the place for building your computer.

[drewjack3]

Ok how would this work
http://vigorgaming.com/cgi-bin/vgg_cal_config.cgi

[Corbs]

Originally Posted by drewjack3

Ok how would this work
http://vigorgaming.com/cgi-bin/vgg_cal_config.cgi

Post the specs, linking to the CGI doesn't do us much good.

Now, I'd like to clarify a few points that Pyjack brought upon. I'm sorry if I might disagree with a few of them, it's in my nature to question things

Originally Posted by Pyjack

1. Don't waste your money on a quad core processor. dual core is fine and anything thats a 9400 nomenclature is going to be better for expansion.

Now, I must say I have absolutely no idea what the 9400 nomenclature is, and a quick Google search gave me nothing interesting, but I have to disagree with your statement. I believe quad core are actually a great investment, especially considering the current prices on the market.

Benchmarks are already showing a significant performance gain from multi-core processors. If you're looking to build the ultimate gaming machine for the next 2-5 years, than in my opinion, the more core the better.

Originally Posted by Pyjack

2. Get a separate HDD for your your OS. buy like a 32gig 7200 RPM 3.0 sata HDD for your OS only. will make your computer blazing fast just leave make sure not to put anything on there. you also want to get 7200 RPM 3.0 sata's for your main drives aswell just is faster.

I have a hard time seeing how you could actually benefit from this? In my opinion, if you do want to achieve the fastest results, buy a faster hard drive only for your OS and your games. Separating both will slow down significantly the loading times since the OS will have to access the data from another hard drive.

Originally Posted by Pyjack

3. SLI isn't worth it just like quad core, its not utilized yet and when it will be utilized you will need to upgrade anyway.

It is true that neither SLI nor Crossfire is fully utilized the way it's meant to. Although, as I said before, games are starting to utilize this, seeing how it is becoming more and more popular upon the market. Games such as Crysis and COD 4 are intensively using the advantage of multi-GPU. Granted, those are big titles, but it's coming.

Now, I must say, one or two months ago, the performance/price ratio for a pair of two HD 3870 was actually a lot better than buying a 8800 GTX (plus saving close to a 100$). Plus, if you expect to be running games at a decent resolution, multi-GPU is the way to go.

Originally Posted by Pyjack

Show us a list and we can let you know if you should change some shit out, and if you didnt know newegg.com is the place for building your computer.

It's actually a good time to be buying a computer. With the release of Nvidia's 260 and 280 and ATI's 4850 and 4870, expect sales on the older GPUs. I even saw a 8800 GTS 512mb at 200$CAD the other day...

[drewjack3]

So which pc do you guys think will b better?
PROCESSOR : AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2 4400+ Processor at 2.3GHz, 2000MHz FSB, 512KB X 2 Cache
RIG :Vigor Cooler Master CM 690 Screwless Chassis
RIG COOLING : Vigor Cool BlastTM Cooling System with Triple 120MM Case Fan
RIG POWER: Standard AMD/Intel Certified 500 Watt Power Supply
MB CORE LOGIC: MSI K9N SLI-F V2 AM2 nVidia nForce 570LT SLI w/2000MHz FSB
MEMORY: 1GB Kingston KVR800D2N5K2/1G DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 X 512MB)
HARD DRIVE 1: 320GB S-ATA II 7200 RPM Hard Drive
VIDEO CARD SLI SLOT 1: nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 256MB DDR2 @540MHz, DVI and TV Out
OPTICAL DRIVE 1: SONY/NEC Internal AD7190A 20X Dual Layer DVD+/- RW + CDRW Rewritable Drive
SOUND: Digital High Definition 3D 7.1 8-Channel Sound
MONITOR: LG L1733TR 17" 1280X1024 3000:1 2ms LCD Monitor
SPEAKERS: Altec Lansing V2421W 2.1 3-Channel Stereo Speakers w/Subwoofer
FLOPPY DRIVE : 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy Drive
OPERATING SYSTEM: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 32-bit w/Original DVD


CPU: Intel E7200
GPU: Nvidia 8800GT 512
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
PSU: Corsair VX550
HD: 250-320 GB Sata II, 7200 RPM, from Samsung, Western Digital or Seagate.
DVD: Samsung S203D
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5

[Corbs]

Originally Posted by drewjack3

So which pc do you guys think will b better?
PROCESSOR : AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2 4400+ Processor at 2.3GHz, 2000MHz FSB, 512KB X 2 Cache
RIG :Vigor Cooler Master CM 690 Screwless Chassis
RIG COOLING : Vigor Cool BlastTM Cooling System with Triple 120MM Case Fan
RIG POWER: Standard AMD/Intel Certified 500 Watt Power Supply
MB CORE LOGIC: MSI K9N SLI-F V2 AM2 nVidia nForce 570LT SLI w/2000MHz FSB
MEMORY: 1GB Kingston KVR800D2N5K2/1G DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 X 512MB)
HARD DRIVE 1: 320GB S-ATA II 7200 RPM Hard Drive
VIDEO CARD SLI SLOT 1: nVidia GeForce 8600 GT 256MB DDR2 @540MHz, DVI and TV Out
OPTICAL DRIVE 1: SONY/NEC Internal AD7190A 20X Dual Layer DVD+/- RW + CDRW Rewritable Drive
SOUND: Digital High Definition 3D 7.1 8-Channel Sound
MONITOR: LG L1733TR 17" 1280X1024 3000:1 2ms LCD Monitor
SPEAKERS: Altec Lansing V2421W 2.1 3-Channel Stereo Speakers w/Subwoofer
FLOPPY DRIVE : 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy Drive
OPERATING SYSTEM: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic 32-bit w/Original DVD


CPU: Intel E7200
GPU: Nvidia 8800GT 512
RAM: 4GB DDR2 800
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
PSU: Corsair VX550
HD: 250-320 GB Sata II, 7200 RPM, from Samsung, Western Digital or Seagate.
DVD: Samsung S203D
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5

Both have their advantages, but the 2nd PC is by far the superior one. Just take for instance the RAM, 1GB is nothing.

As for the hard drives, from the review's point of view, the 250GB Western Digital seems to do better than Seagate's 250GB, although the 320GB Seagate does better than Western Digital's 320GB. But that was a few months ago.

If you could provide a bit more information, like the GPU and RAM manufacturers, that would be great.