Your Vehicle!

[Guyver]

Originally Posted by naggs

if the vehicles are overpowered, it will ruin the game. infantry have to be something other than 'guys who havent gotten in vehicles yet'. the best way to implement vehicles i have seen is to have them either 1) get your squad somewhere fast 2) bring some huge firepower. its a bad sign if every squad has to have an anti vehicle spec guy who hides in the back until the 100 ft tall flying robot with lazer eyes and missle pods shows up and starts to wipe everyone but the antivehicle guy and other vehicles. vehicles need to be vulnerable to basic infantry.

Wrong. It's not like that at all in any kind of war. Even for games that's a big mistake. It's like this: When a child grows up he can have a vehicle of his own. He can do as he pleases and ect. But until then he has to settle with what he has. That applies to this. When you have the appropriate level and gear, you can deal with vehicles and their drivers. A lv2 guy can't blow up a tank with ease. He will have to deal with it. As for the one guy in the back with a rocket launcher, that is how it should be. If everyone can take care of a vehicle then it takes away the strategy. Maybe have an anti-tank squad composed of light armored scouts and heavy rocketiers. If that's what it takes then so be it.

[naggs]

the game your describing sounds really lame. your 'child' anlogy sounds like WoW or any other rpg. so you want all the low levels to be target practice for people in vehicles. that is what im talking about when i said infantry should not be 'guys who havent gotten in vehicles yet'. webzen has specifically said that player skill will be more important than equipment and weapons. vehicles can serve a purpose in a game without being infantry mowing machines. if most infantry have to run and hide from the vehicles then i will be disappointed in this game.

BTW i dont really like your tone, i dont really know you but i have a strong suspicion your a d bag. i dont know how my opinion can be "Wrong." or what "any kind of war" has to do with a game. actual war is not fun at all and a game designed around what it is like would suck. you seem to be of the opinion that it would be fun to get in a tank and kill hundreds of infantry who just get to run from you. that doesnt sound fun to me or anything like what webzen has tried to sell this game as.

having read this thread from beggining to end, most of the suggestions on here would ruin the game. most of the ideas are things like "artillery that can rain death on an enemy position from over the horizon" or "i should be able to repair my tank so that it doesnt get destroyed" or "the hover bikes should be able to straife infantry at 100 mph"

dont you guys see that would be a big turd of a game? how much fun would it be to be an infantry man who just go carpet bombed? how much fun is it to have no alternative but to run and hide from the tank?

it is obvious to all that infantry should not get one item that makes them invulnerable to most weapons in the game, dramatically increases their firepower, increases their speed, and cant be taken out because they can repair it.

why do you guys think that this is a vehicle combat game? why should vehicles be able to kill everything, but most infantry can only kill other infantry? dont you see that will lead to a game where infantry are guys who havent gotten in a vehicle yet?

vehicles should be for getting you or your squad somewhere fast or for bringing big guns to the fight. if they become the front line combat units, it will be a lame game.

infantry should be on near equal footing against vehicles. 1 rocket to the back for a kill, 2 to the side, 3 to the front. that still leaves you plenty of time to 1 hit kill multipul infantry unless you get flanked.

[187 Phantom]

calm down lol

he only got defensive because vehicles have a bad reputation of being completely useless in fps games.

by the same time that players begin obtaining licenses for vehicles, other players will be getting their anti-armor weaponry.

so when someone gets his shiny new tank and begins pwning n00bies with his cannon, someone else is prepared to blow em to hell. but it wont be the phantom with his sniper rifle and it wont be the avenger with only an assault rifle. it will be the enforcer or avenger that decided to bring a bazooka just in case the opportunity to earn mad points presented itself in the form of a vehicle kill.

and if i spent my hard eaned license points to be able to get a tank, that tank's big guns better not be water pistols.

[naggs]

exactaly, infantry should not have to spec in anti-armor to be able to kill a tank. a tank doesnt have to spec in anti infantry to kill a guy. it should be 1 secondary weapon slot to pack 3 short range rockets. the vehicles should have to fear infantry just as much as infantry fear the vehicles, the tank should have to rely upon its firepower to protect itself. i just dont agree that being able to defend yourself against vehicles should be something that you unlock later in the game. some of the comments on here are like ' hope the infantry cant kill my tank, that would be lame'. im just trying to point out the game balance issues.

[Ted]

well if you think it says every ten levels you can get an upgrade for either your weaponary or a veichle liscence, so if say someone had decided to be a veichle guy and had upgraded about six times your gonna have a gunman who has upgraded his weapon capability six times and he is going to be an evan match for the tank hes facing. were a tank would be mowing down noobs it would be just like a high level person going on a noob killing spree. see what some people are failing to see is that every veichle has its match. Thank you!

soz about my punctuation

[Allgame Lord]

It would be awsome to be able to put different equepment on a vehical. Stealthed minigun tank rolls up behind a squad of infantry *trooper do u hear something* minigun revs up *trooper oh*** minigun wipes out whole squad.

[Grind]

Originally Posted by Allgame Lord

It would be awsome to be able to put different equepment on a vehical. Stealthed minigun tank rolls up behind a squad of infantry *trooper do u hear something* minigun revs up *trooper oh*** minigun wipes out whole squad.

but a guy with heat vision hears the tank and spots the stealth tank! Then he lays 500 stealth mines that burrow under ground and seek out any enemy vehicles on the battlefield. Or something along those lines. lol.

I'd be so pissed if myself and my squad just randomly got mowd down by some ghost tank. It would be funny to be the tank driver/gunner though lol.

Any idea you think of, just think that there is almost no doubt of there being a way to counter it.

Stealth units: heat vision

Slow heavy armor tanks: quick infantry with rockets

enemy snipers: friendly snipers and whatever the headshot protection does

enemy enforcers with giant guns that can slay a million people : a friendly with good aim to take him out quick


If you can't think of anything that's been mentioned to counter these ideas, just make up your own lol. Have faith in the devs that they'll put the game together well.


Giant B-52 type bomber that can lay waste to an entire city : Anti air guns set up on all major bases.

Burrowing fangor beasts that are unleashed to wreak havoc : shoot heat seeking mines into the ground to take of those.

Artillary that keeps constant pounding on a certain area : sneak past the enemy and blow it up, or send a plane in to blow it up.

Everything can be killed by something, I'm not worried.

[Bhoginator]

I will definetely get the motor cycle, atleast for transportation inside cities, and then I will probably use a "combat" motor cycle for battlegrounds, I don't really like actually fighting with vehicles but I love traveling fast with them. Also a buggy would be cool like they have in BF2

[eclipsedmind]

if you cant find me look in the skys in battle or under one of the many rocks scattered about the battlerground

[Bhoginator]

lol, sniper and air support? Lol what you could do is go way up in the air and get someone to hover for you, and then like switch to where you are sniping out of a helecopter or something. that would be awesome :D

[eclipsedmind]

it's just me and that my job(s) i can do anything but fly without over 2 tonnes of machinary in my hands now thats what make swoopping and splattering people fun

[Bhoginator]

lol yeah or chopping peoples heads off with your chopper blades :D I like flying too, although the only game iv'e flown in is BF2, its pretty phat.

[eclipsedmind]

i love the flying in bf2 i play black hawk down a piss of my team while lol

[Bhoginator]

I like motorcycles...I like flying...there must be flying motorcycles!
That would be awesome :D

[eclipsedmind]

that would be one awsome vehicle a flying moto sounds like one fast piece of kit but still not as reliable as a purpose built aircraft.it'll be so cool if you can get an aircraft in city as transport if so, cool

[Cmsr. Jackdaw]

I want a FAV with rollbars. That way I could go of a ramp at the top of a hill and then roll down it.

[Guyver]

Originally Posted by Bhoginator

I like motorcycles...I like flying...there must be flying motorcycles!
That would be awesome :D

They will have hover bikes in Huxley. That's about as close as I'll think it will get.

[eclipsedmind]

hover bikes for in town transport and battlefields will still excillent but piloting them should be made to need a lot of skill all that nimbleness would be hard to control