Racial Defection

[DanAK97]

I havent been able to find any useful information about this so im going to assume that it doesnt exist. Im talking about defecting from one team to another. I believe everquest2 has a quest for this, although thats more of a time sink game then a PvP.

Will there be a quest/option to defect from one team to another? If not, one should be considered.

I understand both sides are heavily at war, and tensions run high between the factions, but there are a few reasons I feel override this.

Storyline Reason: During war, you can never have too many meaty bodies on your front line. Every defector takes one body off your enemy line and adds it to yours. And wouldnt you rather send the inferior defector races off to die before your own troops?

Game Enjoyment Reason: To help unite friends who each want opposing races as their main character, but wish to play together on the same side. Also will curtail those annoying racial imbalance whines that eventually pop up in EVERY MMO.

The quest to defect should be difficult and have some requirements. I was thinking that you need a minimum PvP rank of 15 or 20 out of the cap of 50, and upon switching sides your PvP rank is reset to 1, because they have no reason to trust you.....yet. And maybe while your PvP rank is low the citizens of the other city scowl and catcall you

Oh and the quest should be lengthy and difficult, and once done cannot be undone.

[Lexion]

Not a bad idea, CoV n CoH are implenting the same. Problem here is appearances, races look distinctively different and youd get a complete new character then. It would be the same as a respec and a char remake and it sounds a bit doubtful that they would implement that if you ask me.

[Landain]

I'll disagree with Lex. GMAFB :roll:

[Backus]

some problms i see with this idea is the fact that this will farther add to imbalance.

Here's my example: Let's say Player X doesn't like always like having "noobs" and the other faction is so much better.. this would spur a shift from side A to side B and eventually Everyone will be on Side B and the content would be dead.

[Lexion]

Problem with game mechanics is still why it would be too much of a hassle.

Best option; join ExGS cause we?ll play both sides and you can switch and get help leveling and still play with your friends...or kill em.


GMAFB?

[vernes]

I voted no because I'd like something else.

Much later on, you can join the cause of the Hybrid race.

[Lexion]

"That leaves the Hybrids, who remain an unknown at this point. Hybrids are what happens when a Sapien and an Alternative try to produce an offspring. Generally, the results are undesirable. Hybrids are the enemies you fight in the game's PvE portions, but as mentioned before, Webzen hasn't entirely ruled out the possibility that they'll be playable in some capacity. What we do know is that they'll be divided into four subcategories: epsilon, gamma, beta, and alpha, alphas being almost humanlike in appearance, and epsilons being the adorable Zergling-like guys you see running around in the movies.

There's also a subfaction called the H.L.O -- Hybrid Liberation Organization -- that will pop up, though what its role is, precisely, is yet to be determined. "

[Dementus]

Don't like the idea, it would defeat the purpose of the race in the first place. There is also the fact that it would be untrue to the story. Hatred blinds people, it makes them irrational, the two races have this blinding hatred for each other. No matter what the benefits of having people defect it would not be allowed. Racial hatred, pure and simple.

[Alan8325]

I checked yes, but not so that players can defect to the other side, but rather to a third faction like the HLO. It would add a lot of variety and wouldn't mess up the balance as much as allowing defection to the other side. Webzen would just have to balance the third side so that both sapiens and alternates could join and it wouldn't be more or less powerful than either the sapien or alternate factions.

[winged]

hm i would like to see this, as i doubt they would let you cross over race wise. maybe a underground group that has a powerful lunarite machine that geneticly mutates you and can make you another group... it would ofcource mean you halfto start from almost scratch, loosing a chunk of skills in the mutation paying a ton for the right to do it etc, also you would halfto make new contacts.

[Vicioushellsing]

not a big fan on the crossing over part. I am sure they will let you have more than one character on a server or you can even make another character on a different server if you really want to be able to play both sides.

[Shinta]

If this were to occur the game would lose a lot of depth, it would be just like in Counter Strike were you can switch from one side to the other and you get no real sense of loyalty or emtional connection with your race. And off course there's also the balance issues where players skip across to the more powered races and then skip back. I don't see anything wrong with players betraying their race and joining the hybrid race if that is made possible later on in the game, however they should not be allowed to return.

This is a bit off topic but I hope they implement some sort of time span between using chracters like in ps where if you play with one race, and then switch, you cannot re-switch for another 10 hours. This would avoid players simply jumping across to their alts when the other race is winning a battle.

[Dragoon]

might be cool, but they are different races and the difference would be obvious. Might be cool, but would be hard to keep things right.

[Devilish]

Die, mutant vermin!!!

[LimpJedi]

This would just allow those noobs that get owned over and over to switch to the more "powerful" side. This idea may be good for some games but I dont think it should be in Huxley.

[Enemy21]

i think this would be an ok idea but it would need a restriction of some kind like u can only switch once or twice and when u do u lose skills and it costs money or something

[Lexion]

Originally Posted by Enemy21

i think this would be an ok idea but it would need a restriction of some kind like u can only switch once or twice and when u do u lose skills and it costs money or something

So how would you tackle the different looks, an auto make over?

[Alan8325]

Originally Posted by Vicioushellsing

not a big fan on the crossing over part. I am sure they will let you have more than one character on a server or you can even make another character on a different server if you really want to be able to play both sides.

In regard to being able to defect to the other side, I agree with this comment in that it doesn't add a whole lot to the gameplay. It would probably even detract from the gameplay in that both sides would eventually be identical mixtures of both races, effectively making the game have only one race from a gameplay perspective.

Without defection, it would be Race A vs. Race B. Each race has distictive abilities. With defection you basically have A+B vs. A+B, which is boring. Defection to a third side with maybe a tradeoff of abilities could work though, because then you have limited versions of A and B working with race C (npc's). It would basically be A vs. B vs. a+b+C, or something like that. Maybe just make race C playable! :?

[Kaine]

This is a horrible idea. Do you have any idea how many people would switch sides and betray clans, etc. It may be an idea to get assasins, etc behind enemy lines but if you mutate them to the other race it's going to totally throw off the balance of the game. People will figure out ways to exploit this and use it to their advantage not to mention the waste of time it would take to implement this into the story and code.

[DanAK97]

Ok so, its painfully obvious that very few actually read my original post.

yeah whatever.

ONCE DONE CANNOT BE UNDONE

Ya know, one way ticket? There would be no constant side swapping because you could only do it once EVER with any single character

It would also (almost) totally ELIMINATE racial unbalance complaints.

Lastly it would let friends with their hearts set on opposing races play on the same side