Outside Of The Cities

[Berserker]

Originally Posted by Decent_xVICIOUSx

like the newbies start off in a barren wasteland and try to get 2 a city without being captured and put to work mining lunarites or made 2 join ther army of freedom fighters

That would suck for the new players... They should start in a city until they understand the game better

[Grind]

The only way I could see the escaping capture thing work is if it was more of a tutorial mission kind of thing. It could teach you the basics and lead you through a mission of escaping from wherever you are (possibly captured already by some crazy people, or in the wilderness trying to get to a city, and on the way to the city you learn the basics).

[connnnn]

They have mentioned "Arena-style" areas that won't be XP-based where you can fight in more traditional small-scale fights, they haven't mentioned whether these will be intra-faction only, or inter-only, or what.

We haven't gotten confirmation of any cities outside the 3 main ones, just rumors that there could be others. As of now I would bet that there will be absolutely zero fighting on the streets in these main cities. I'm guessing either there will be some sort of "city guards" style thing to stop it instantly, or maybe you won't even be able to fire your weapon (or it could just magically not have any effect who knows). But these rumored "outpost town" areas -- should they even exist in the game -- would theoretically be a lot more likely to allow more open combat and/or factions mixing within or fighting over it.

In the end we're still just speculating for the most part... but those are my best guesses.

Oh and as for that crazy mission idea, what if the people shooting didn't actually kill the "escapees", but they still got XP credit based on how much damage they did? That way it still gives the intense atmosphere for the runners without them getting slaughtered, and still gives a reason for people to even bother shooting. The question then of course becomes how much xp you wanna give for a freebie mission like that in the first place, and whether any higher levels would even bother since it likely wouldn't do much toward leveling compared to PVP'ing.

[Grind]

Originally Posted by connnnn

They have mentioned "Arena-style" areas that won't be XP-based where you can fight in more traditional small-scale fights, they haven't mentioned whether these will be intra-faction only, or inter-only, or what.

We haven't gotten confirmation of any cities outside the 3 main ones, just rumors that there could be others. As of now I would bet that there will be absolutely zero fighting on the streets in these main cities. I'm guessing either there will be some sort of "city guards" style thing to stop it instantly, or maybe you won't even be able to fire your weapon (or it could just magically not have any effect who knows). But these rumored "outpost town" areas -- should they even exist in the game -- would theoretically be a lot more likely to allow more open combat and/or factions mixing within or fighting over it.

In the end we're still just speculating for the most part... but those are my best guesses.

Oh and as for that crazy mission idea, what if the people shooting didn't actually kill the "escapees", but they still got XP credit based on how much damage they did? That way it still gives the intense atmosphere for the runners without them getting slaughtered, and still gives a reason for people to even bother shooting. The question then of course becomes how much xp you wanna give for a freebie mission like that in the first place, and whether any higher levels would even bother since it likely wouldn't do much toward leveling compared to PVP'ing.

I'm pretty sure they've said that aside from the 3 main cities (2 of which are for the playable races) there will be 8 smaller cities in which the fighting will take place. They have also said that there will be no fighting in the main cities (I'm guessing you just can't shoot at all). As to city guards, there might be some just for looks and maybe some more just in case some enemies get too close to the city (I have no idea but that would be cool if you could kind of attack someone elses capital, even if you just sit outside shooting at anyone who comes out).

As to the mad dash under heavy high level fire. If they ever wanted to put something like that into the game (probably not, but I think it would be really fun for both sides lol). They could have the high levels pick up the mission, then everyone in the general area gets grouped together in the quest all at the same time (kind of like the quest system that warhammer: age of reckoning will have). I would say that the low levels should respawn right where they died if not a little further ahead in the run (just so they can always make it to the fort no matter what). This way the higher levels are pretty much just giving them a hard time for a bit, but not really effecting the game too much. As for exp. they could just give a general amount of exp. to everyone who participated.

[Berserker]

It's to bad Webzen won't release more details on PvP, especially since it's coming out this summer or fall, from what I've seen...

[Grind]

Release got pushed back to 2008. Hopefully early 2008. And I think they said they plan on having beta this december (I'm not sure, that's just what I heard). So maybe we'll get some more info once it gets closer to beta time or once beta has been out for a bit

[CarnaGe]

Originally Posted by Grind

Release got pushed back to 2008. Hopefully early 2008. And I think they said they plan on having beta this december (I'm not sure, that's just what I heard). So maybe we'll get some more info once it gets closer to beta time or once beta has been out for a bit

the beta has already been released... atleast for xbox 360

[connnnn]

Rumors abound, but proof is nonexistent.

[CarnaGe]

Originally Posted by connnnn

Rumors abound, but proof is nonexistent.

um yes... i have a friend who's playing it on Xbox Live

[Untamed98]

Originally Posted by Berserker

That would suck for the new players... They should start in a city until they understand the game better

I would love to start out with a challenge when i first play it will make the game seem more fun. I love when I get a good game challenge.

[Grind]

Originally Posted by CarnaGe

the beta has already been released... atleast for xbox 360

if this is true (I wouldn't think so, but hey what do I know) I'm wondering why there hasn't been a lot of talk about it. I'm also wondering why the beta for xbox has already been released when the actual game is released later than the PC version. If it really has been released so early for the xbox I would like to see some people talking about it on the forums. Since they could answer a HUGE amount of questions.
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Starting in a city would be ok I guess. Actually I'm going to make a new thread about it, since the topic of this one is "Outside Of The Cities" lol and has nothing to do with starting areas.

[RJCannon]

Normally with Betas there's a nondisclosure agreement of some sort, and also people might be too busy playing to post

[Berserker]

Originally Posted by Grind

Release got pushed back to 2008.

Link? I never heard that... very saddening. I'll look around...

EDIT: I looked, webzen sight says 2007...

[RJCannon]

All the places I've seen have been saying within 2007, have yet to see anywhere that it says that it has been delayed. Hopefully we'll hear more about release date/betas soon

[connnnn]

Webzen hasn't said anything official in awhile. They keep updating the website every 6 months or so, and that date gets pushed back, so I guess you could call that a "delay". But frankly they haven't made any real media statements promising a release date, so I'd still just consider it up in the air at this point. Maybe this Christmas, maybe next Spring (hopefully earlier though), but who knows.

[Berserker]

I've mostly been hearing spring/fall 2007... By Christmas definately.

[Murvel]

If you want to discuss the releasedate there are proper threads for that, back to topic!

[Genre]

Originally Posted by CarnaGe

but it's our fault, we should do something about it. we slaved them, we ruled over them, then we just left them having no experiance of how to rule a country.

on topic: i like the idea of having wilderness where no one is safe, but that's gonna be boring as hell for the new peoples who start playing, since i'd guess that 10 lv1's won't stand much of a chance against 10 lv60's with machinguns waiting in a forrest for them

In africa they are mostly fighting over religion. Darfur for example is a religious-ethinic conflict.

We didn't slave them by the way.