Huxley Game, Massively Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter Game, MMOFPS

Manetheren · 22-07-2006, 10:56 PM

Welcome everyone to Grammerfest 2006, in the red corner...or crimson...uh...what should I call it, seeing that I dont wish to offend anyone...

Wow, you guys are really breaking it down, lol. Dont overthink it, its a group of people...there are dozens of ways to describe that, all different depending on what it is exactly you are looking for in your "group". If you want a close knit family type of "group", call it a "clan", or perhaps a "tribe", or a "pride", a "school" ...any of those could work. If you want a group that doesnt communicate, or is rarely online...you can call it "Acquaintances", or "Supp'ers", or perhaps "People who dont really know each other, but we met on opening day and only three of us play now". It all depends on your perception and what you are looking for. Besides...it is all going to come down to what Huxley calls it, most likely not us...unless they do a poll...and if they do, I am voting for Tuna Sandwich just so I can laugh at all the forum whining that would innevitably result. I love you guys, and I for one cant wait to see my old ass get dusted by twelve year olds, with their nimble little fingers, and childlike reflexes, and will relish in the weekday hours from 6 am to 4 pm, where I will be allowed to triumph, dodging homeschoolers all the way. God bless America, and long live the Queen.

~Mantheren

Ao1xSniperkev · 23-07-2006, 12:25 AM

i love you too mantheren

Manetheren · 23-07-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ao1xSniperkev

i love you too mantheren

lol Go go gadget Brokeback Mountain soundtrack! lol jk.
tyty, Now if only we can get more official info on the "group" system! Also I like the concept of having to fight for your territory, and starting in a hole in the wall(literally).... so that when you move into your first dive, and eventually your warehouse or building, you feel pride, and a sense of accomplishment. I want more info! Feed me...get in my belly!

~Manetheren

CONQUEROR 45 · 23-07-2006, 01:45 AM

I think you just might have your own instance of your guild, like in Guild Wars everyones guild was in the same location, but everybodys was in a diffrent instance. But it would be cool to take over buildings in the town and call it your Guild Hall.

KopMcginty · 23-07-2006, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CONQUEROR 45

I think you just might have your own instance of your guild, like in Guild Wars everyones guild was in the same location, but everybodys was in a diffrent instance. But it would be cool to take over buildings in the town and call it your Guild Hall.

Cool yes, but it is not guild/clan housing, conquerabal resource points will change hands frequently IMO, especially as clans that can field decent numbers at ALL times will be few and far betweeen, the fact they can be captured by the enemy while your whole clan is tucked up in bed means they cant really provide the function of Guild Hall.

A guild hall, ideally would be a safe house in your home city that the guild can use as a meeting point and maybe more, it could possibly be used as a guild bank/equipment storage etc. None of which would be risked in a capturable building.

CONQUEROR 45 · 23-07-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KopMcginty

Cool yes, but it is not guild/clan housing, conquerabal resource points will change hands frequently IMO, especially as clans that can field decent numbers at ALL times will be few and far betweeen, the fact they can be captured by the enemy while your whole clan is tucked up in bed means they cant really provide the function of Guild Hall.

A guild hall, ideally would be a safe house in your home city that the guild can use as a meeting point and maybe more, it could possibly be used as a guild bank/equipment storage etc. None of which would be risked in a capturable building.

Is that how guild halls will be working?? Heh that is way cooler then having your own guild hall, instead you will be fighting for your own territory. But what happens when everybody goes to sleep and someone steals your fort?

connnnn · 23-07-2006, 10:58 AM

They've spoken of guild halls and conquerable areas totally separately as far as I can tell.

I don't get what the point of having a guild hall would even be if anyone can just come take it over... I've mentioned this before, but why bother defending something that give no resources when you can defend something that actually benefits you? And honestly, how do you convince half a dozen guys to just stand around the building all day just in case someone comes along?

These are the main reasons I'd expect guild halls to be safe areas... what I wonder is whether they'll be directly tangible parts of the cities, or if they'll be totally separate, how common they'll be, what type of access system it'll use, what the point of having one is (just as a trophy or really having utility?), etc. There's lots of ways they could go with it...

Bezim · 23-07-2006, 06:49 PM

Maybe they could set it up so that in order to conquer a territory for your guild, the territory already under your guilds control would then be susceptible to attack. So the leaders toggle whether or not their guilds are in combat.

Then your guild would have to balance offensive and defensive forces, and guilds that don't want to participate in the combat wouldn't have to.

I kinda doubt it will happen, but it's a possibility.

Manetheren · 23-07-2006, 07:43 PM

Perhaps having a guild hall's size depending on size and renown or rank of the occupying "group" ...maybe you have to "buy" into a larger guild hall..or better yet quest for it...but anyway...fighting for use of certain utilities or resources for your hall would be interesting, like better lighting from owning the area where the electricity company is, or to draw npc merchants. What would be cool is if every hall had surrounding buildings that you could fight for to gain influence, and the more of those buildings you control, the better gear or prices guild hall npcs carry in the hall itself. The Hall could stay safe, but the surrounding buildings could be vulnerable at certain prescribed hours. (like for 8 hours a day, changable once a week, or possibly also on a challenge system) The seige system from the bot and farmer ridden game of Lineage 2 seems to work well, set up so that the castles or halls are "seiged" once a week,. Oh well, those are just brainstorming ideas. Sorry if this post seems ramble-arific, but as you can tell, I wrote as I thought of the ideas, then more than once, my idea changed mid-thought, so please ask for elaboration as you see my mistakes. Damn my A.D.D.

~Manetheren

Felix12g · 24-07-2006, 01:58 AM

If there are anything like lockers or storage space for armor/weapons of any kind a hall would be useful. A firing range, recruitment center or simply prestige may be reasons to own one. One bonus to this is that nearby npcs apparently will give discounts to outfit members around their base of operations. Outfit only missions? Cheaper mercenaries? Private merchants?

As for defending these buildings. . . if you're renting it, I imagine you can lock the door.

CONQUEROR 45 · 24-07-2006, 03:39 AM

Hmm this sounds really confusing, I just guess we will have to wait till the game comes out! But maybe you'll have to buy it and go to the outskirts of town and you will be able to choose a place to drop your guildhall.

KRAJ · 24-07-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KopMcginty

Or they could just make the guild hall instyanced, with access either restricted to, or set by the owning guild.

i know this is an old quote, but i'm new here. . . Sorry. But why not take a block out of FF11's book? I hated FF11 but one thing they did get right was everyone having their own house. Simply make a residential zone that serves as a portal to all guild halls. Three blocks of apartment complexes in which each door in the apartment leads to a guild hall which can be completely full sized. You could even have the different apartment buildings seperated by guild ratings. Pre-built factions could have their headquarters stationed in the middle or about these few blocks with customized guild halls that are given to the highest rating 3 or 4 guilds at the time. If your in that rating you simply enter that hall instead of others. Please respond to this idea. if its just a bad idea, i'm sorry. im new here. . .

CONQUEROR 45 · 25-07-2006, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KRAJ

i know this is an old quote, but i'm new here. . . Sorry. But why not take a block out of FF11's book? I hated FF11 but one thing they did get right was everyone having their own house. Simply make a residential zone that serves as a portal to all guild halls. Three blocks of apartment complexes in which each door in the apartment leads to a guild hall which can be completely full sized. You could even have the different apartment buildings seperated by guild ratings. Pre-built factions could have their headquarters stationed in the middle or about these few blocks with customized guild halls that are given to the highest rating 3 or 4 guilds at the time. If your in that rating you simply enter that hall instead of others. Please respond to this idea. if its just a bad idea, i'm sorry. im new here. . .

neat idea, i would have never thought of that.

English · 28-07-2006, 05:53 PM

it would be cool to conqour a part of the city then post gaurds to defend it and tehre would be like shops n stuff and ud have to be part of that guild to come into that zone kinda like the Jedi base on Dantooine in KOTOR 1

CONQUEROR 45 · 28-07-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by English

it would be cool to conqour a part of the city then post gaurds to defend it and tehre would be like shops n stuff and ud have to be part of that guild to come into that zone kinda like the Jedi base on Dantooine in KOTOR 1

Perhaps NPC guards and player guards.

CTU24 · 28-07-2006, 11:23 PM

That sounds cool but i think that the oposing race cannot go into each others capital or magor "city"

Manetheren · 28-07-2006, 11:56 PM

I think there needs to be times when you can enter the main city...for a few reasons. First, It would be so much fun if you were able to fight for your city occasionally. Second, home team would have SUCH an advantage, its your town, you should know it front and back...so It would be so much fun if you were able to attack their city occasionally, with losing meaning higher prices, ownership of materials, or just downright bragging rights. It talkes about your accomplishments building influence for your party, and your race...so maybe that would be a fun way to do it, occasionally. Oh well, we will know more later, most likely well over 80% of every conversation on the forum will turn out to be useless.

~Manetheren

English · 29-07-2006, 12:48 AM

didnt they say that there would be abandoned parts of the city that u could take over in any city.....b/c i like the KOTOR idea. i like ur idea with the NPC gaurds and stuff conqourer

it would be kinda boring just to have gaurd duty.

23-07-2006, 12:25 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ao1xSniperkev Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 280	i love you too mantheren __________________ [URL=http://www.ao1huxley.com][img]http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2333/huxleysig35xc.jpg[/img][/URL]

24-07-2006, 01:58 AM	#30 (permalink)
Felix12g Super Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 547	If there are anything like lockers or storage space for armor/weapons of any kind a hall would be useful. A firing range, recruitment center or simply prestige may be reasons to own one. One bonus to this is that nearby npcs apparently will give discounts to outfit members around their base of operations. Outfit only missions? Cheaper mercenaries? Private merchants? As for defending these buildings. . . if you're renting it, I imagine you can lock the door. __________________ If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing. ~W. Edwards Deming

22-07-2006, 10:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
Manetheren Training Grounds Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23	Welcome everyone to Grammerfest 2006, in the red corner...or crimson...uh...what should I call it, seeing that I dont wish to offend anyone... Wow, you guys are really breaking it down, lol. Dont overthink it, its a group of people...there are dozens of ways to describe that, all different depending on what it is exactly you are looking for in your "group". If you want a close knit family type of "group", call it a "clan", or perhaps a "tribe", or a "pride", a "school" ...any of those could work. If you want a group that doesnt communicate, or is rarely online...you can call it "Acquaintances", or "Supp'ers", or perhaps "People who dont really know each other, but we met on opening day and only three of us play now". It all depends on your perception and what you are looking for. Besides...it is all going to come down to what Huxley calls it, most likely not us...unless they do a poll...and if they do, I am voting for Tuna Sandwich just so I can laugh at all the forum whining that would innevitably result. I love you guys, and I for one cant wait to see my old ass get dusted by twelve year olds, with their nimble little fingers, and childlike reflexes, and will relish in the weekday hours from 6 am to 4 pm, where I will be allowed to triumph, dodging homeschoolers all the way. God bless America, and long live the Queen. ~Mantheren

23-07-2006, 01:45 AM	#24 (permalink)
CONQUEROR 45 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 100	I think you just might have your own instance of your guild, like in Guild Wars everyones guild was in the same location, but everybodys was in a diffrent instance. But it would be cool to take over buildings in the town and call it your Guild Hall.

23-07-2006, 10:58 AM	#27 (permalink)
connnnn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 425	They've spoken of guild halls and conquerable areas totally separately as far as I can tell. I don't get what the point of having a guild hall would even be if anyone can just come take it over... I've mentioned this before, but why bother defending something that give no resources when you can defend something that actually benefits you? And honestly, how do you convince half a dozen guys to just stand around the building all day just in case someone comes along? These are the main reasons I'd expect guild halls to be safe areas... what I wonder is whether they'll be directly tangible parts of the cities, or if they'll be totally separate, how common they'll be, what type of access system it'll use, what the point of having one is (just as a trophy or really having utility?), etc. There's lots of ways they could go with it...

23-07-2006, 07:43 PM	#29 (permalink)
Manetheren Training Grounds Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23	Perhaps having a guild hall's size depending on size and renown or rank of the occupying "group" ...maybe you have to "buy" into a larger guild hall..or better yet quest for it...but anyway...fighting for use of certain utilities or resources for your hall would be interesting, like better lighting from owning the area where the electricity company is, or to draw npc merchants. What would be cool is if every hall had surrounding buildings that you could fight for to gain influence, and the more of those buildings you control, the better gear or prices guild hall npcs carry in the hall itself. The Hall could stay safe, but the surrounding buildings could be vulnerable at certain prescribed hours. (like for 8 hours a day, changable once a week, or possibly also on a challenge system) The seige system from the bot and farmer ridden game of Lineage 2 seems to work well, set up so that the castles or halls are "seiged" once a week,. Oh well, those are just brainstorming ideas. Sorry if this post seems ramble-arific, but as you can tell, I wrote as I thought of the ideas, then more than once, my idea changed mid-thought, so please ask for elaboration as you see my mistakes. Damn my A.D.D. ~Manetheren

24-07-2006, 03:39 AM	#31 (permalink)
CONQUEROR 45 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 100	Hmm this sounds really confusing, I just guess we will have to wait till the game comes out! But maybe you'll have to buy it and go to the outskirts of town and you will be able to choose a place to drop your guildhall.

28-07-2006, 05:53 PM	#34 (permalink)
English Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Posts: 32	it would be cool to conqour a part of the city then post gaurds to defend it and tehre would be like shops n stuff and ud have to be part of that guild to come into that zone kinda like the Jedi base on Dantooine in KOTOR 1

28-07-2006, 11:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
CTU24 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ummmm ummmm (runs away) Posts: 220	That sounds cool but i think that the oposing race cannot go into each others capital or magor "city"

28-07-2006, 11:56 PM	#37 (permalink)
Manetheren Training Grounds Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 23	I think there needs to be times when you can enter the main city...for a few reasons. First, It would be so much fun if you were able to fight for your city occasionally. Second, home team would have SUCH an advantage, its your town, you should know it front and back...so It would be so much fun if you were able to attack their city occasionally, with losing meaning higher prices, ownership of materials, or just downright bragging rights. It talkes about your accomplishments building influence for your party, and your race...so maybe that would be a fun way to do it, occasionally. Oh well, we will know more later, most likely well over 80% of every conversation on the forum will turn out to be useless. ~Manetheren

29-07-2006, 12:48 AM	#38 (permalink)
English Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: England Posts: 32	didnt they say that there would be abandoned parts of the city that u could take over in any city.....b/c i like the KOTOR idea. i like ur idea with the NPC gaurds and stuff conqourer it would be kinda boring just to have gaurd duty.

29-07-2006, 04:35 AM	#39 (permalink)