Huxley Game, Massively Multiplayer Online First Person Shooter Game, MMOFPS

DanAK97 · 16-03-2006, 07:41 AM

MODORATOR: For clarifacation, I have edited and reworded parts of this post.

1. Crafting would be optional. Dont like crafting? dont craft. You can seek out an NPC to do the same modifications, or buy the same items. You can get a few unquie things from my suggested forms of crafting but nothing unbalancing.

2. Camping NPCs for items? You didnt read very closely, all the crafting skills use parts from the SCAVANGE ability that comes with the skill.
Scavange: Can only be used every 5 or so minutes and only finds parts/items in an area with recent battle. So theres no camping, just during a calm in fighting, your avatar kneels down and sifts around for some parts for a few moments.

3. A maxed level character can go buy from an NPC, virtually any upgrade. Allowing him to craft that upgrade wont change the fact that he'll have it either way.

HOWEVER, a LOW level character can get the upgrade SOONER since it will be cheaper. In the case of bomb craft, the homemade explosives can be made much easier and cheaper than, and will be almost as good as, the bombs/grenades carried by maxed levels. In other words crafting could serve to get lower level characters on their feet easily.

4. In the case of World of Warcraft (im not a big fan but someone brought it up) rarely do level 60's wear items made by another player. Their equipment is all typically a drop they got in some end game dungeon. Skills like Armorsmith and Weaponsmith help the low-mid level characters far more.

Weapon Crafting
Allows you to make the modifcations to your weapons yourself, without needing to consult and pay an NPC.

Passive: Weapon upgrades are far cheaper when done yourself, and a profit can sometimes be turned by offering upgrades to others.

Active: Existing upgrades can be removed at no cost, and a new one added if desired at normal cost.

Active: Allows you to change simple upgrades like scopes and laser sights on the battlefield, without a workshop. An extra satchel is used to carry up to two extra attachments without digging into normal inventory space.

Ammo Crafting
Passive: Emergency Cache: A satchel always with the character, is used to carry emergency ammo without dipping into normal inventory space. The extra amount is undetermined (since weapon details are sketchy at best) but should be roughly an extra two clips worth. Scavanged items also accumulate in here.

Active: Pack Ammo: Can pack their own ammo using scavanged components, slightly cheaper then buying it. Nearly all ammo types can be made if the right components are available, along with some unquie types that cannot be bought from vendors.

Active: Scavange: Search the ground around for unspent rounds, spent but undamaged shell casings, empty clips, and other various objects neglected during a war. Items are nearly worthless when sold to a vendor but can be used in constructing ammo. Must be used in an area that recently experianced battle. These items go into the special satchel if available, or use up normal inventory space otherwise.

Bomb Crafting
Passive: A satchel is carried that allows storage of two explosive devices, or two stacks (for small cluster items like grenades) without using normal inventory space.

Active: Craft Explosives: This skill can be used to make standard grenades, mines, etc at slightly below normal cost. However, other less conventional things, like homemade pipe bombs, expertly made moltov cocktails, and such, can be made at a fraction of the cost of a regular grenade of similar strength. They CAN be unreliable however...

Active: Boom!: This skill can be used to modify existing explosives (grenades, mines, etc) to enhance either their blast radius by 25%, their power by 25% or both by 10%. This uses no items but has a tiny chance of damaging the explosive in the process, making it a dud. There is also a very rare chance that the item could explode in the crafters face, most likely killing him but im sure that will never happen to YOU

Armor Crafting
Passive: Armor repair equipment functions 25% faster. vehicle repair equipment functions 10% faster. A satchel only able to hold shards (see next ability) is also always carried.

Active: Scavange: Shards of damaged armor and seemingly worthless metal fragments are collected from the groud, and can later be melted down into useable parts for upgrading armor. The shards go into the special satchel used only for them.

Active: Emergency Patch: Heals a small portion of armor to a friendly soldier including yourself. It consumes one "armor fragment" (gathered using scavange) but can also be used on target with full armor to give them a small (temporary) increase in their maximum armor. The increase is lost as soon as damage is taken that reduces it below the normal maximum.

Apocathery
Passive: Healing equipment used by you works 25% faster. A satchel that carries up to three total healing items is always carried.

Active: Craft Medicine: Using the same materials as used for two medkits, the crafter can instead create a hypospray. Hyposprays cause the user to regenerate fromy injury for a short period of time after initial use (roughly 4-5 minutes). The more damaged the user is, the faster the regeneration effect will be. A person with critically low health will heal rapidly at first, and the effect will slow down as his health level increases, till its barely noticable at about 75%.

Active: War Bandage: This skill can be used on an injuried friendly to restore a tiny portion of lost health. Use is almost instant, and consumes and uses no item worthy of noting, but the target must be below 50% health. Skill can only be used once every few minutes on the same target.

Opinions? New ideas?

LimpJedi · 16-03-2006, 09:26 AM

Is this game actually going to have crafting? I hope not.

vernes · 16-03-2006, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LimpJedi

Is this game actually going to have crafting? I hope not.

why?

OCmathew1000 · 16-03-2006, 01:13 PM

i think crafting would be bad. this is a FPS not a RPG. buy ammo, gun mods are cool, but shouldnt be crafting. picking up ammo on the battlefied is fine, so it buying some explosives, but it should be money or experience to get things like that, not crafting.

Lexion · 16-03-2006, 01:19 PM

I understand the purpose for having a place for ppl that wants to do it but crafting means resources, resources means drops, drops means spawn camping and overly full inventories that means taking away focus on actual gameplay.

vernes · 16-03-2006, 01:33 PM

If you don't like crafting, don't craft.
If you don't want full inventories, don't pick up the junk.

If you want to buy more ammo for less money, find a crafter.

I don't see the problem.

Lexion · 16-03-2006, 01:38 PM

It all remains to be seen. I still agree its an RPG element, but I dont have anything against the idea, it creates an even more immerse world.

I might disagree on weapon crafting if you can change the stats, that usually spells unbalance.

Dragoon · 16-03-2006, 05:37 PM

crafting might work, and would add a littler flavor if you don't feel like blasting something at the moment, but it does add in the "drops" and itemcraft blows.

vernes · 16-03-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexion

I might disagree on weapon crafting if you can change the stats, that usually spells unbalance.

Why would it spell unbalance?

Lexion · 16-03-2006, 08:21 PM

Cause it causes crafters with the best resources to craft the best guns. Again meaning spawn camping where the best drops are and the weapons themselfs are unbalanced on the field. As its stated, anyone coming into the game should have an equal chance with skill as a level 50. It would be too easy to monger cash and just buy the best crafted guns while a new level 1 guy would only be able to have a basic gun.

Thats why there are licenses per 10 levels, and thatll be enough for a level difference in fire power.

LimpJedi · 16-03-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vernes

If you don't like crafting, don't craft.
If you don't want full inventories, don't pick up the junk.

If you want to buy more ammo for less money, find a crafter.

I don't see the problem.

Go play world of warcraft.

KingGryphon · 16-03-2006, 10:19 PM

The whole crafting idea seems out of place. This came is about getting to battle quickly and all the time, not leveling up your armoring skills.

vernes · 16-03-2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LimpJedi

Quote:

Originally Posted by vernes

If you don't like crafting, don't craft.
If you don't want full inventories, don't pick up the junk.

If you want to buy more ammo for less money, find a crafter.

I don't see the problem.

Go play world of warcraft.

That didn't make any sense.
I can't even see if that remark was supportive, or against it.

vernes · 16-03-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexion

Cause it causes crafters with the best resources to craft the best guns. Again meaning spawn camping where the best drops are and the weapons themselfs are unbalanced on the field. As its stated, anyone coming into the game should have an equal chance with skill as a level 50. It would be too easy to monger cash and just buy the best crafted guns while a new level 1 guy would only be able to have a basic gun.

Thats why there are licenses per 10 levels, and thatll be enough for a level difference in fire power.

But that is if you alowe people to craft AND focus on weapon-skills.
But what if crafting meant you have to drop some weapon skills?
Besides, time spend gaining crafting skill means time NOT spend on weapon skills.

I very much doubt they'd alow crafters to have thesame skills and stats as non-crafters.

DanAK97 · 16-03-2006, 11:56 PM

For clarifacation, I have edited and reworded the original post with the following section.

1. Crafting would be optional. Dont like crafting? dont craft. You can seek out an NPC to do the same modifications, or buy the same items. You can get a few unquie things from my suggested forms of crafting but nothing unbalancing.

2. Camping NPCs for items? You didnt read very closely, all the crafting skills use parts from the SCAVANGE ability that comes with the skill.
Scavange: Can only be used every 5 or so minutes and only finds parts/items in an area with recent battle. So theres no camping, just during a calm in fighting, your avatar kneels down and sifts around for some parts for a few moments.

3. A maxed level character can go buy from an NPC, virtually any upgrade. Allowing him to craft that upgrade wont change the fact that he'll have it either way.

HOWEVER, a LOW level character can get the upgrade SOONER since it will be cheaper. In the case of bomb craft, the homemade explosives can be made much easier and cheaper than, and will be almost as good as, the bombs/grenades carried by maxed levels. In other words crafting could serve to get lower level characters on their feet easily.

4. In the case of World of Warcraft (im not a big fan but someone brought it up) rarely do level 60's wear items made by another player. Their equipment is all typically a drop they got in some end game dungeon. Skills like Armorsmith and Weaponsmith help the low-mid level characters far more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingGryphon

The whole crafting idea seems out of place. This came is about getting to battle quickly and all the time, not leveling up your armoring skills.

I dont see anything, anywhere about leveling up crafting skills? You get it, just like a weapon, or vehicle skill. You either got it or ya dont.

And this game is NOT about getting to battle quickly and all the time for EVERYONE. That may be YOUR purpose, and thats cool, but you'd be a fool to believe everyone thinks exactly as you.

Devilish · 17-03-2006, 01:02 AM

If I see anyone rubbing their hands together to make a Plasma Death Cannon of WTFPWN +4, I'm going to shoot them repeatedly in the face. Then I'm going to uninstall.

DanAK97 · 17-03-2006, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devilish

If I see anyone rubbing their hands together to make a Plasma Death Cannon of WTFPWN +4, I'm going to shoot them repeatedly in the face. Then I'm going to uninstall.

+4?
Pfft, nub
Mines +7

Ricter · 17-03-2006, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devilish

If I see anyone rubbing their hands together to make a Plasma Death Cannon of WTFPWN +4, I'm going to shoot them repeatedly in the face. Then I'm going to uninstall.

There are plenty of RPG's with crafting out there. This shouldn't be one of them.

16-03-2006, 07:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
DanAK97 Training Grounds Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15	Awesome Crafting Ideas MODORATOR: For clarifacation, I have edited and reworded parts of this post. 1. Crafting would be optional. Dont like crafting? dont craft. You can seek out an NPC to do the same modifications, or buy the same items. You can get a few unquie things from my suggested forms of crafting but nothing unbalancing. 2. Camping NPCs for items? You didnt read very closely, all the crafting skills use parts from the SCAVANGE ability that comes with the skill. Scavange: Can only be used every 5 or so minutes and only finds parts/items in an area with recent battle. So theres no camping, just during a calm in fighting, your avatar kneels down and sifts around for some parts for a few moments. 3. A maxed level character can go buy from an NPC, virtually any upgrade. Allowing him to craft that upgrade wont change the fact that he'll have it either way. HOWEVER, a LOW level character can get the upgrade SOONER since it will be cheaper. In the case of bomb craft, the homemade explosives can be made much easier and cheaper than, and will be almost as good as, the bombs/grenades carried by maxed levels. In other words crafting could serve to get lower level characters on their feet easily. 4. In the case of World of Warcraft (im not a big fan but someone brought it up) rarely do level 60's wear items made by another player. Their equipment is all typically a drop they got in some end game dungeon. Skills like Armorsmith and Weaponsmith help the low-mid level characters far more. Weapon Crafting Allows you to make the modifcations to your weapons yourself, without needing to consult and pay an NPC. Passive: Weapon upgrades are far cheaper when done yourself, and a profit can sometimes be turned by offering upgrades to others. Active: Existing upgrades can be removed at no cost, and a new one added if desired at normal cost. Active: Allows you to change simple upgrades like scopes and laser sights on the battlefield, without a workshop. An extra satchel is used to carry up to two extra attachments without digging into normal inventory space. Ammo Crafting Passive: Emergency Cache: A satchel always with the character, is used to carry emergency ammo without dipping into normal inventory space. The extra amount is undetermined (since weapon details are sketchy at best) but should be roughly an extra two clips worth. Scavanged items also accumulate in here. Active: Pack Ammo: Can pack their own ammo using scavanged components, slightly cheaper then buying it. Nearly all ammo types can be made if the right components are available, along with some unquie types that cannot be bought from vendors. Active: Scavange: Search the ground around for unspent rounds, spent but undamaged shell casings, empty clips, and other various objects neglected during a war. Items are nearly worthless when sold to a vendor but can be used in constructing ammo. Must be used in an area that recently experianced battle. These items go into the special satchel if available, or use up normal inventory space otherwise. Bomb Crafting Passive: A satchel is carried that allows storage of two explosive devices, or two stacks (for small cluster items like grenades) without using normal inventory space. Active: Craft Explosives: This skill can be used to make standard grenades, mines, etc at slightly below normal cost. However, other less conventional things, like homemade pipe bombs, expertly made moltov cocktails, and such, can be made at a fraction of the cost of a regular grenade of similar strength. They CAN be unreliable however... Active: Boom!: This skill can be used to modify existing explosives (grenades, mines, etc) to enhance either their blast radius by 25%, their power by 25% or both by 10%. This uses no items but has a tiny chance of damaging the explosive in the process, making it a dud. There is also a very rare chance that the item could explode in the crafters face, most likely killing him but im sure that will never happen to YOU Armor Crafting Passive: Armor repair equipment functions 25% faster. vehicle repair equipment functions 10% faster. A satchel only able to hold shards (see next ability) is also always carried. Active: Scavange: Shards of damaged armor and seemingly worthless metal fragments are collected from the groud, and can later be melted down into useable parts for upgrading armor. The shards go into the special satchel used only for them. Active: Emergency Patch: Heals a small portion of armor to a friendly soldier including yourself. It consumes one "armor fragment" (gathered using scavange) but can also be used on target with full armor to give them a small (temporary) increase in their maximum armor. The increase is lost as soon as damage is taken that reduces it below the normal maximum. Apocathery Passive: Healing equipment used by you works 25% faster. A satchel that carries up to three total healing items is always carried. Active: Craft Medicine: Using the same materials as used for two medkits, the crafter can instead create a hypospray. Hyposprays cause the user to regenerate fromy injury for a short period of time after initial use (roughly 4-5 minutes). The more damaged the user is, the faster the regeneration effect will be. A person with critically low health will heal rapidly at first, and the effect will slow down as his health level increases, till its barely noticable at about 75%. Active: War Bandage: This skill can be used on an injuried friendly to restore a tiny portion of lost health. Use is almost instant, and consumes and uses no item worthy of noting, but the target must be below 50% health. Skill can only be used once every few minutes on the same target. Opinions? New ideas?

16-03-2006, 01:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
OCmathew1000 Training Grounds Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29	i think crafting would be bad. this is a FPS not a RPG. buy ammo, gun mods are cool, but shouldnt be crafting. picking up ammo on the battlefied is fine, so it buying some explosives, but it should be money or experience to get things like that, not crafting. __________________ [URL=www.enclaveoilrig.com]\"In the world of online gaming, I am first and foremost a member of The Enclave.\"[/url] \"Carebears make excellent substitues for toilet paper, if you think charmin is soft, you\'ve never used carebears.\"

16-03-2006, 01:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lexion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 396	I understand the purpose for having a place for ppl that wants to do it but crafting means resources, resources means drops, drops means spawn camping and overly full inventories that means taking away focus on actual gameplay. __________________ [img]http://www.geocities.com/gremlylizzon/ion.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.huxleyradio.com/radiosig.jpg[/img]

16-03-2006, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lexion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 396	It all remains to be seen. I still agree its an RPG element, but I dont have anything against the idea, it creates an even more immerse world. I might disagree on weapon crafting if you can change the stats, that usually spells unbalance. __________________ [img]http://www.geocities.com/gremlylizzon/ion.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.huxleyradio.com/radiosig.jpg[/img]

16-03-2006, 05:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dragoon Training Grounds Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 28	crafting might work, and would add a littler flavor if you don't feel like blasting something at the moment, but it does add in the "drops" and itemcraft blows. __________________ \"Those who throw dirt, lose ground\"

16-03-2006, 09:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
LimpJedi Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 91	Is this game actually going to have crafting? I hope not.

16-03-2006, 01:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
vernes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 139	If you don't like crafting, don't craft. If you don't want full inventories, don't pick up the junk. If you want to buy more ammo for less money, find a crafter. I don't see the problem.

16-03-2006, 08:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lexion Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 396	Cause it causes crafters with the best resources to craft the best guns. Again meaning spawn camping where the best drops are and the weapons themselfs are unbalanced on the field. As its stated, anyone coming into the game should have an equal chance with skill as a level 50. It would be too easy to monger cash and just buy the best crafted guns while a new level 1 guy would only be able to have a basic gun. Thats why there are licenses per 10 levels, and thatll be enough for a level difference in fire power. __________________ [img]http://www.geocities.com/gremlylizzon/ion.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.huxleyradio.com/radiosig.jpg[/img]

16-03-2006, 10:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
KingGryphon Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England Posts: 62	The whole crafting idea seems out of place. This came is about getting to battle quickly and all the time, not leveling up your armoring skills. __________________ (\__/) (='.'=) (_) (_) (")_(") Virtute Et Armis

17-03-2006, 01:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Devilish Training Grounds Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10	If I see anyone rubbing their hands together to make a Plasma Death Cannon of WTFPWN +4, I'm going to shoot them repeatedly in the face. Then I'm going to uninstall. __________________ [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/devilishlydo/devilishsigadv.jpg[/img] Enclave. We will march on a road of mutie bones.