Huxley Gold Farming

[gobbly2100]

As all MMO gamers will know, there is one thing that ruins games and that is the damn gold farmers, they cause items to be overpriced and such so I am really hoping that the way Huxley works it will not turn out to be another gold farmers work place.

[Grind]

Originally Posted by gobbly2100

As all MMO gamers will know, there is one thing that ruins games and that is the damn gold farmers, they cause items to be overpriced and such so I am really hoping that the way Huxley works it will not turn out to be another gold farmers work place.

I have the same fear of gold farmers taking over the economy and jacking up certain prices while completely destroying other means of making money.

At first I thought it would be ok because a lot of the game will be PvP, and we're all going to be PvPing a lot so we'd all basically be farming at the same time.

I also thought that since there will be lots of missions that maybe loot drops that come off random NPC mobs won't really have much effect on the game, maybe it'll be more focused on the rewards you get from completing missions.

Now that I think of it though, Huxley will indeed have instanced PvE missions so I'm assuming that you can go into these PvE zones anytime you want and just sit there and kill mobs.

Since we don't really know how the loot system will work or how we will gain weapons armor and materials I guess we can't really know if they'll be farmable. They did say that in these PvE missions you can only last so long by yourself, before you get taken over by the massive swarms of enemies coming at you. So maybe farming won't be too huge of a problem.

Then again it's almost impossible to stop people from finding some way to farm a certain item and take advantage of certain things in the game.

All we can do is hope for the best

Farming usually doesn't become a problem until later in the game anyway. Maybe there will be a code of honor where nobody buys items from people who destroy the economy A quality over quantity kind of thing where people get to know each other and are willing to pay a little extra for something because they know they'll be able to ask that person for a favor later on. I really like seeing that kind of thing in games. Where you can pay a little extra, and help other people out, knowing that it's going to benefit you in the long run.

[xer011]

I find it soooo funny that there is a gold ad.

[eclipsedmind]

im still wondering what the currency is gold is so old i thought lunerutes will be worth somethin

[Murvel]

I will be farming skulls from my victims.

eclipsedmind, it doesn't have to be gold, but the term that people is familiar with is just gold farming.

[PvtCaboose37]

i am 100% against rmtr's but sadly enough they are part of the game i just hope we can kill farmers like them

[eclipsedmind]

wow ive got called my name AWSOME!!1 well i guess your right murvel.gold is pretty much the most common term

[Atticus]

by the looks of the forums, huxley looks like it will be a very friendly enviroment for gamers as to where people will be partiieing up and helping eachother level, as well as active clans that are gonna recruit and help other nice people and many other things will happen to people that are just not jerks in game.


nobody wants someone that will yell at you in their mic until your ears bleed in their clan, or party for that matter. people will respect people that respect them just like in real life because mmo's are so real and people's personalities will ultimately determine how far they wil make it into the game, as well as the amount of fun they will have. lets face it, noone likes to just play the game by themselves with no user to user interaction if it is possible(unless it is a beratable game, which mmos are not). mmos, and really any online game was made to play with others and make it more fun for users. if you solo forever...
#1 harder lvling
#2 not as much fun (not a guaranteeded fact though)
#3 little to no chance of experiencing clan wars
#4 no new friends that you will be able to inteact with that truly become your real life friends because you talk to them so often
---so overall the game will just not be the best experience it could be if you were nice to people and listened to what they have to say and just follow the *Censored Word**Censored Word**Censored Word**Censored Word*ing rules and use common sense.

gold farming is for noobs and if you do it others wil find out. some will like you, most will want to switch to the opposite "faction" just for the chance to kill ur farming ass.

so if people are asking for a little more moneys then give em it and they will remember you and hep you get into clans, parties, get you goods like weps and armor, and all that good stuff.

[eclipsedmind]

yeah just like real life.bribe somebody and they will like ecspecially if they're crooked.
and for the mining im sure you wont need to with money prizes at the end of battles

[Lunarhawk]

On the PC this is easier to accomplish with Bots but hopefully we won't see much of this on the 360 version since they're not really connected.
Of course the 360 version's community will be a lot smaller anyways for the same reason. I personally, while I don't support it, wouldn't mind gold farmers if it meant the 360/PC servers were interconnected.

[Grind]

you might consider a gold farmer not necessarily someone who uses a bot to farm for them. But also someone who finds a certain item that sells well and then exploits the market by farming only that item, buying out anyone else who sells that item and then jacking up the price since they're now going to be the main person who sells that certain item.

Or simply someone who sits there and farms alllll day long so money is no object to them and therefore they can buy stuff at high prices which drives up prices for everyone else (including those who don't have time to farm for 10 hours a day)

I'm all up for rewarding those who put time into their character. But when certain items become WAY over priced while other items fall to almost nothing. That can really mess up the economy, making certain people gain money really easily and making others who picked the unlucky proffession have a hard time making any money. The money gap gets bigger and bigger and it can lead to a gap in gear etc.

Example: Theres an item, we'll call it "Light Exiled Ember Talon" This item is very good for certain people but it is a very rare drop and is hard to find.

Someone comes along and is lucky enough to find this item "L.E.E.T" and decides he wants to sell it to make some money. Normally he would ask a price of around $400 which would be a decent amount of money for him. But someone strolls along and says "I'll give you $1000 if you give it to me right now!!!!"

So obviously the lucky player sells his LEET for $1000 dollars and goes happily on his way. Well word spreads that you can sell a LEET for $1000 dollars so now anyone who wants one is either going to have to scratch their eyes out for a small chance at getting one, or take the time to save up $1000.

Soon anyone that manages to sell their LEET for $1000 has lots of extra money because nothing else in the market is really all that expensive. So these "rich" players go and spend their money on upgrades and don't even bother to try and argue for lower prices. So then crafters and everyone else start charging higher prices because they now there are people out there willing to pay.

However those who haven't gotten a LEET to sell, and would rather spend their time in epic PvP battles, are left behind because they're stuck in the time where $400 was a lot of money.


To conclude!!!! Gold farmers lead to higher prices which isn't fun for anyone. I'm sure you all already knew that but I thought I'd give a little example for my own amusment.

[Lunarhawk]

What you're describing, Grind, is not Gold Farming.
It's Capitalism
It's how an "in game economy" works, that's just how it goes.

Gold Farming is someone who participates in this "in game economy", and very aggressively, but then instead of using the money they earned themselves they go and sell it to someone in real life who hasn't done crap for real money which makes it unfair to those of us who have been working hard for our in game money.

[Servo]

Would you consider this farming?

Say a clan has a item request system.

Like say a rare item you just cant find, anything.

You state your wanted item, then the clan will tell all it's members to be on the look out for that item.

Once someone finds it, they give it to whoever does the business.

Then they notify the client, they charge a fee, whatever it mite be, then give him/her the item and him/her gives them the money.

Then they split the earnings among all members evenly, then all the members are wealthy.

[Lunarhawk]

If all the money being dealt with is game money, then no, I do not. If it, however, does involve "real life" cash then yes I consider it some form of gold farming.

[Relic]

Gold farming will happen, sorry, but the creators get good money off of noobs who want to get a lot of cash quick, not like the vets who grind day in day out.

Relic

[WNxTacticalW]

I honestly don't care if gold farmers will spawn in this game. There is a currency in the game which is used to buy things, you can trade and so on so there's bound to be some form of gold farming out there. Really though, who cares. The number of gamers deciding to waste their money on it are pretty miniscule and as for its affects on the economy, it's not that big in the big picture but of course any % is bad.

In the long run it doesn't really matter and it's inevetible. Just concentrate on the game itself instead of something that's out of our control.

This is inevetible and

[Grind]

Originally Posted by Lunarhawk

What you're describing, Grind, is not Gold Farming.
It's Capitalism
It's how an "in game economy" works, that's just how it goes.

Gold Farming is someone who participates in this "in game economy", and very aggressively, but then instead of using the money they earned themselves they go and sell it to someone in real life who hasn't done crap for real money which makes it unfair to those of us who have been working hard for our in game money.

lol my bad. Both lead to increased prices. And it's still annoying. New story then:

Guy buys a bunch of gold online. and pays top price for everything he buys. Then prices go up because people start to expect more money for their items.

Fixed :D

and yeah sure it's inevitable. It doesn't mean we should just sit there and take it. There might be some way to control it. And why not try? It would be really nice to play a game where everyone has to work equally to get their items. So when you see someone all decked out in the best gear etc. you know they really worked for it.

I'm probably just dreaming though