Why I Don't Think I Will Be Buying Huxley Anymore

[Van_Crackin]

Oh. Here's another point for discussion:

The 100 v 100 battles are being hyped up loads, but I'm wondering how many battlefields of this magnitude will be.
It seems like the devs of Huxley are also sneaking in alongside this hype the smaller matches.
And I think it would be unrealistic to say that the 100 v 100 battles will exceed the amount of smaller ones.

I'm beginning to wonder if this can even be classified as an MMO. I suppose it can, but I am thinking that this game is going to lack that "new world" feel of an MMO.

[InsaneRussian]

Well for you guys that hype is most important, i present the link that Guyver posted not so long ago, there was ey:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/s...ype/gameID/197
Pus as i read the comments people really misunderstand what the game is about and how everything works. So the hype is only at 7. as they said that the hype was something above 9.5 i believe after the E3 last year where Huxley was presented. (Read that in many interviews/reviews)

Anyhow, for me it seems that some people constantly misunderstand what makes a game MMO. Thought since im not American/English it would be better to use internet to explain it cause you didn't seem to understand it when i explained it last time.
First used google (define:MMO)
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A massively multiplayer online game (MMOG) is a type of computer game that enables hundreds or thousands of players to simultaneously interact in a game world they are connected to via the Internet. Typically this kind of game is played in an online, multiplayer-only persistent world.-------------------------------------
Hmm, Huxley has possibility to allow "hundreds or thousands of players to simultaneously interact in a game world" no, not on battle ground that have 100vs100 nor in cities (being sarcastic) where they say it's so large like real main cities in now days. Typically this kind of game is played in an online, multiplayer-only persistent world.
Multiplayer-only? Yeah for PC! Not for xBox though.

So not qualified as MMO yet? You probably mistaken all the time with MMORPG, then yeah lol it havent qualified and never will cause it has only weapons and realistic skills no magic =)

Okey here is another view on MMOFPS from Wikipidia:
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Several MMO first-person shooters have been made. These games provide large-scale, sometimes team-based combat. The addition of persistence in the game world means that these games add elements typically found in RPGs, such as experience points. The first MMOFPS, 10SIX (now known as Project Visitor) released in 2000. World War II Online, released in 2001, is often quoted with the same honour, because it more closely fits the traditional FPS mold, and was more widely published. Another popular MMOFPS game is Sony Online Entertainment's PlanetSide. For building one's own MMOFPS, there are also now free MMOG game engines.
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Once again, this game should not be MMORPG only have it's grounds like exp point, health, armor and quests, mobs to kill, weapons and PvP.
So my friend if you aint conviced yet that it is a MMOFPS, then yeah you shoudn't be buying Huxley anymore :P
No offence just trying to explain what an MMO means =)

[Van_Crackin]

I played an MMO for 2 years.
I know what they are.

My point was that there is a good possibility that the game will be made up of hundreds of smaller set battles, and less gigantic battles.
After all, when we all talk about Huxley to someone who doesn't know, we say 100v100 battles. It's what has us ALL talking. But I could have sworn I heard someone the matches go as low to 1v1. I'm just thinking that there is a good possibility that Huxley's battles, on average, will not be as grand and gigantic as we all hope.

Even though it may be qualified as an MMO, it will lack that gigantic, MMO feel due to battlegrounds being instanced. As of this time, I have no idea really what the world map is going to consist of except that you take a train to battles.
If you've played an MMO, you know what I say that half of your motivation is driven by exploration and the want to discover something new.
I'm just worried Huxley will not provide those points.


It appears as well that other well known games you mentioned, such as planetside, did not suffer from this as entire planets and such were being fought over.

But I'm being negative.
Huxley will hopefully be great, I am just trying to get an intelligent discussion going on here. Perhaps if the devs do look at our forums and look more closely at what we want, they will make some tweaks to the game if it is not already great. Negative feedback is good.

[Guyver]

Well I read that there will be VERY few load times. So exploring is all I would love to do, even in the enemy cities. As long as I am cloaked, I know nothing can stand in the way of me.....and ADVENTURE!
They may be "instanced", but who is to say that it has load times? I never read that battles will have load times...
And yes, there will be smaller battles. This is usually a guild thing. (Go Psychosis!)
I'ved played MMO's since I was about 13 or so, starting with EverQuest.

[InsaneRussian]

Originally Posted by Van_Crackin

I played an MMO for 2 years.
I know what they are.

My point was that there is a good possibility that the game will be made up of hundreds of smaller set battles, and less gigantic battles.
After all, when we all talk about Huxley to someone who doesn't know, we say 100v100 battles. It's what has us ALL talking. But I could have sworn I heard someone the matches go as low to 1v1. I'm just thinking that there is a good possibility that Huxley's battles, on average, will not be as grand and gigantic as we all hope.



Negative feedback is good.

Well if you think of it, WoW has the same functions as Huxley. I mean the battle grounds are even smaller in WoW. But the quest world i vast. Plus you can't roughtly judge the game when it's not even out yet bro =)
I mean all things i've heard of it makes is MMO (for PC) and all things i've heard i liked, cause i love FPS games so is this.

And yeah "Negative Feedback IS good" cause otherwise you'll never learn and never improve yourself. But as i said you can't roughtly judge the game which you know very little about. Plus it's depends on how negative the feedback is, if it's realistic then it's good if it's just simply negative on everything plus on stuff you know very little about, that back feedback. same with my feedback, i give negative feedback on what people say so they would realise that there is another point of view

[Van_Crackin]

Yes.
But if we say "Oh Huxley is going to be amazing!"-that doesn't help the developers at all realize what people want.

Isn't it almost impossible to have instances without load times?

[InsaneRussian]

Originally Posted by Van_Crackin

Isn't it almost impossible to have instances without load times?

You mean like instance in WoW? I you do mean that then, there is a game that is called Lineage 2 Chronicle 1-5 (expansions). In that game you have instances where there is no load time at all, at least those on the ground. But thing is person can enter the instance with you, to simply kill you or monsters. I mean those instance on the ground you go and go then you see a cave entrence you go to it go in (no loading as i recall) the simply mobs get stronger, the deeper you go the tougher it gets, mobs get 2x-4x HP.
I dont remember much loading in that game at all, i mean when you run around on fields i dont remember loading between areas.
If somebody wants to try it i can show you some servers, private servers which are free and fully working to expansion Chronicle 5.

[Van_Crackin]

Sounds cool.

Hopefully a game with a graphics and gameplay on the scale of Huxley could handle that smoothly.

[Guyver]

Originally Posted by Van_Crackin

Sounds cool.

Hopefully a game with a graphics and gameplay on the scale of Huxley could handle that smoothly.

I don't see why you care Mr. not buying Huxley :]


ps- I typed this message on my wii, awesome right?

[InsaneRussian]

Originally Posted by Van_Crackin

Sounds cool.

Hopefully a game with a graphics and gameplay on the scale of Huxley could handle that smoothly.

Well L2 has awesome graphics, compared to any other MMORPGs, i mean i played many MMORPGs and L2 has awesome graphics and it handles that stuff. Check out screenshots from official web if you dont trust me

[Bishop]

4. How can you honestly say that it and all mmo's will flunk on console...look at the Elderscrolls series. there one of the most popular and one of the most played mmo's and guess what there on console...sure they make it for pc...but its been proven that more people buy the console version...not to mention the fact that oblivion came in second for game of the year award...stupid zelda....seriously man that was a broad and ignorant statement and a very biased oppinion....i strongly disagree.

[Guyver]

Originally Posted by Bishop

4. How can you honestly say that it and all mmo's will flunk on console...look at the Elderscrolls series. there one of the most popular and one of the most played mmo's and guess what there on console...sure they make it for pc...but its been proven that more people buy the console version...not to mention the fact that oblivion came in second for game of the year award...stupid zelda....seriously man that was a broad and ignorant statement and a very biased oppinion....i strongly disagree.

Oblivion and Elder Scrolls were not MMO's. They weren't even simulated MMO's. It was nothing but an RPG game.

[InsaneRussian]

Damn, hate when people compare Huxley to MMORPGs or RPGs. It's advenced FPS in MMO style with basics from RPGs, like trading - lvling - questing - killing mobs. If you people like the game because you thinking it will be MMORPG in FPS style then you are totaly wrong and then you should be thinking as Van_Crackin. I want the game cause it's an awesome FPS and i love FPS, plus i love RPGs too. But there is only little bit of spices from RPGs which makes it even cooler.

[Van_Crackin]

I'm not complaining that its an not RPG enough, if you have noticed I haven't made one post about the in game economy, role playing, ect.
What I have mostly talked about though, is the combat and how dynamic and fluid it will work.
Just because its an FPS doesn't mean that the game has to forgo all mechanics of an RPG anyway. The reason this game has those mechanics in the first place because it is in fact an MMO, and all MMOs need to have these elements in order to have balanced gameplay.
So saying that "Huxley is not an MMORPG" is not a good reason for it to forgoe these elements of an RPG that have been proven time and time again to lead to a successful game.

Besides, almost everyone here has commented on how Huxley will steal members from the WoW community, I do agree. However, without those elements of an RPG that most WoW members know and love, it will not steal enough to put a dent in that MMO juggernaut.

[InsaneRussian]

Well i believe that i've mentioned that it has basics of RPG gameplay. So don't see why you are telling me that again.
Plus concerning the WoW, i played, i got bored and abbandoned it. Can't really see what's the fun of running Dungeons/Battle Grounds over and over again when you reached lvl 70 and have no more quests to do. Plus playing with action figures made of plastic on the land of plastic doesn't seem so fun to me. Done all quests and got bored, don't see why people burn on WoW so much, whats so good about it.

[Kenbark]

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May be alittle late but here I go anyway. Dont go flapping any more rumors about the 360 version please. I have heard enough about How the 360 version wont have this and will not do that. Its stupid, made up, and unwanted. Fan boys on both sides need to chill. Its a game for crying out loud. The xbox version will not flop. If done right the xbox version will be more popular than the PC version. More people have an xbox than a PC that will be able to run this game like an xbox, lots more. And if this game is as good as I am hoping it will be, it will take off like WoW. There is nothing different about the versions of the game. The release dates will be the same time. The PC will not be coming out 6 months earlier(It takes MORE work to get the PC version done, lots more, than the xbox). The xbox version will not flop, if anything it will do better than PC(Webzen knows this). The xbox version will not, not allow them to play as the 2 main races. The xbox version will not take place 50 years in the future. The xbox version/players will not be full of just noobs and little kids. The fact is that no body knows anything about this game. Everything, everyone is stateing here is mostly fanboy rumor. Which tends to lean in favor of PC more than xbox. Lets all come together and stop trying to put everyone else down. Its getting old. Its been going on for years and still no evidence to back it. UNTIL we get official word from the makers themselves. They are the only ones that can be trusted, and saddly they dont seem to do much speaking of english.(much speaking of any language for that matter, they dont talk at all about their game. Just pics and every year another 2min. movie).

And cmon, the magazine articles cannot be all correct either. They all seem to contradict one another. They are all guessing much like we are, and many mags, such as MMO mags, tend to favor the PC, which shows in their preview.

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